Wednesday, February 24, 2010

Interview with Brenda Miller Part 2

Christine.  Yeah. It’s self fulfilling, or mind fulfilling.  Okay one more question: In Breakthrough, beliefs that we are unaware of are revealed and brought into consciousness. How is this process helpful to us as BodyTalkers? as People?
Brenda.  Anything that’s brought into our conscious mind is no longer in the unconscious mind, unconscious driving us. So for instance say you have a belief system: “my life is a struggle”.   At some point you saw that when you struggled you were really well rewarded, then the correlation and the convoluted pathway that the mind takes is:  “struggle is good because it will bring me rewards”.   So we will continue to see life as struggle and then of course the mind will have the opposite, “struggle is bad”, because inside of “struggle” we always feel like that’s not a really good position to be in. And you know therein lies the conflict. So what’s your question again Christine?
Christine.  How is the process of bringing the unconscious belief into consciousness helpful?
Brenda.  Well, simply that awareness, as soon as we have awareness about something we feel different about it don’t we? It is that simple and said another way, if you have a new job and you don’t have a job description, you just show up and you sorta don’t know what you’re doing you’re gonna stand around there wondering what you’re doing. And so the next day you get handed a job description and you read it.  Now you have new awareness. It changes totally how you feel about that job. The day before you were stressing out and hating it because you didn’t know what to do and now you’ve got information that has changed how you feel about it. So awareness, what it does for one thing is always shows us that we are what we accuse the other of.
Christine.  Now how does that relate in a Body Talk session?
Brenda.  How do you mean?
Christine.  Well I think there’s just so much detail in terms of practitioners learning to be practitioners. I mean personally I remember my mind trying to guess what the next links would be and the feeling of total crisis if I didn’t guess right, the feeling of crisis if the outcome for the session wasn’t what I thought it should be, the feeling like we know what’s right for other people in Body Talk sessions, and it even goes into again not staying present and it gets in the way even I think of starting up practices as Body Talkers.
Brenda.  Well really Christine every person on the planet is wounded because their true nature is not at the forefront, they’re not living from that place. They’re living from those wounds we get when we were little. Christine you be a good girl, Christine don’t you be mean, Christine that was selfish, Christine stop being so rude. So we’ve divided energy that is not two. Rude and polite/mean and kind. So this is the way the mind works now in that conflicting state. So we bring our wounded self to everything, to a relationship, to Body Talk. And as we do this work the wound is healed and true nature is revealed. So true nature is revealed to us once we’re healed of these wounds.
Christine.  So that Body Talk and Breakthrough, there’s no separation in terms of who Body Talk helps or who Breakthrough helps. It helps self and others constantly. Or healed maybe is better than help.
Brenda.  Yes that’s true on one level and on another level there’s nothing wrong.
Christine.  This is the thing, there’s a projection in Body Talk, I know a lot of Body Talkers. It’s the idea of being in service, I’ve got it, the idea of helping, of knowing what’s right for other people, and again these sort of scripts that aren’t serving us. It’s interesting it’s one of the things that really comes up when you start to really get into Body Talk, are those scripts.
Brenda.  The less you know the better your sessions are. The less you think you know the more fantastic the healing is. The clearer your mind, it means you’re not projecting your conditioned self onto the other and they therefore are getting a clear mirror and they therefore now, we’re in true service to each other because now I as the patient or client can see what I need to be healing myself with and we’ll get to it. If I’m playing the projection game with you then that’s what we’ll do during the session, and yes there may be some results but do you really want to just settle with that when we’ve got a whole life that could be so fantastic ahead of us? If we do our own work then we bring this to every relationship, not just in the healing realm but to our partners and to our children, and we stop teaching our children the cultural prescription and prolonging the misery of all of humanity.
Christine.  And it shifts the universe on levels that you can’t even describe.
Brenda.  Well the way I see that, and I don’t know if I’m right or wrong it’s just my feeling, is that when one of us becomes clearer, when one of us resolves an issue, then that’s projected to collective consciousness. Collective consciousness changes and collective consciousness is also projecting to us, it’s circular.   And therefore every time one of us does, is able to integrate an unintegrated aspect of our psyche and therefore become whole, then the collective consciousness is one step closer to that and that reflects back to us. It’s evolution in my mind, the most beautiful evolution.
Christine.  This is like matrix building.
Brenda.  Yes and it’s consciousness medicine.
Christine.  Mm hmm.
Brenda.  It is.


Christine Corlett

Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Interview with Brenda Miller Part 1




The following is an interview I conducted with Brenda Miller around the beginning of February 2010. 

Christine.  Hi there how are you doing? 
Brenda.  Good.
Christine.  In  BodyTalk  we  talk about innate, and basically then, just to get details more specific: the innate is of a clear mind. And there’s are different doors to we can go through to get to ‘clear’, to get to the ‘rabbit hole’ , right?
Brenda.  Yes.
Christine.  So for instance one can do cortices to help ones brain balance that way.
Brenda.  Yes.
Christine.  And then we can also balance in other ways…  For instance through, BreakThrough.   Would you describe BreakThrough as a mind system?
Brenda.  Well I would call it a mind body spirit system because everything is a projection of mind and so the body’s a projection of mind so the world is a projection of mind. So I would call it yeah- body mind soul.
Christine.  And for instance I had the thought a couple days ago that BreakThrough will help anyone who tries it, doing better at whatever they do, because it informs their ability to be.
Brenda.  Yes, I think:  isn’t that our true goal, to live this life feeling how we would love to feel? Because really life is all about how we feel and so BreakThrough helps us, I guess it helps us in that way. Because from your true nature really, all you can feel is joyful, spontaneous, calm, compassionate, very real. You can feel very authentic, passionate about what you’re doing. You know it just comes through you then.
Christine.  It’s interesting because it makes me really think. I remember when I started to connect ‘my’ physical health value to BreakThrough whereby I could start to see and experience a lack of stress in self and that lack of stress translates into a lower heart rate, into a better digestion, into more fulfilling interactions with others and self.  There is a ‘trickle down’ effect from the effort you put into BreakThrough.   The releasing you experience is not just in the mind but in the body.  The result of BreakThrough steps is that your body gets off the hook too. The body has been responding to the stress generated around our efforts to protect a wound- a wound we were unaware of before starting a BreakThrough
Brenda.  Yes, I should be interviewing you. I think you answered that beautifully and because the body is a projection of mind, if the mind becomes clear just like a pond the body becomes clear. It’s:  “you can’t clean up the toxic pond one corner at a time.”
Christine.  And the thing too is I’ve done it, I am attached and enmeshed with my reactions, I want to defend them and sometimes I don’t actually believe that there is a ‘natural’ state that’s ours, A peaceful place where we belong.
Brenda.  That’s so true, we defend the story that causes us stress.
Christine.  And the mind likes to argue that this natural state just doesn’t even exist.
Brenda.  And that’s why probably that the mind also engages in these struggles and traumas and dramas to the extent that at some point every person does reach their own bottom and some people they will reach out for the rope that Break Through is and pull themselves out.
Christine.  And it’s interesting too because to me there’s an equation between the mind that resists the natural state of peace integration, which is a comfortable experience of self. The mind is like an addict in that it says it needs to constantly give itself adrenaline rushes by getting into conflict outside of itself and inside of itself, to create biochemical reactions in the body.
Brenda.  That is our greatest addiction, the addiction to the mind.
Christine.  Right?
Brenda.  We actually believe our thoughts.
Christine.  There’s an interesting article I read in Seed Magazine entitled: “A New State of Mind § SEEDMAGAZINE.COM  written by Jonah Lehrer.
After reading it I realize: “oh it’s concepts, it’s concepts. We’re addicted to concepts.” And I love how science is documenting phenomena which apply directly to ‘Consciousness Studies’.
Brenda.  And we’re addicted to coping.  And coping is not a mark of strength it’s a mark of weakness because it’s doing the opposite to what our birthright is which is really engaging in life, living it and loving it. Coping is saying there’s something wrong and I don’t know what to do about it.
Christine.  Do you see a relation between the article I’m talking about and our experience of the Bodymind though?
Brenda.  I do but I still come back to the idea that deeper than that is that it’s a concept that we believe, and our beliefs will find proof for themselves wherever they can.


Christine Corlett


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